• Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de
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    All these people setting up filters don’t understand it is supposed to train you in case a real phishing attempt is made.

    Those filters aren’t going to stop real ones.

    But if you want to blow up the database server you need to work on because you couldn’t be bothered to click a button when a phishing test comes around, then you better quit your job in tech.

    I swear, developers are some of the biggest security concerns in any company. They complain the moment some access is blocked for good reason. Much bigger concern than old nancy “never-had-a-computer-at-home” clicks-a-lot.

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      If the fake phishing emails can be caught by my very rudimentary filter they weren’t particularly good anyway. Besides, I still have to look at those emails and report them, otherwise my IT still counts it as a strike against me. Win-win. IT continues to keep me on my toes and I don’t have to take another 30min training course because I ignored an email for a day or two.

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    Sounds kinda like the Tale of Foolish Curiosity from Don Quixote. Spoiler: the wife was a good woman and wouldn’t have cheated on the guy… until he started being an asshole by subjecting her to endless tests to prove her virtue.

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      I’ve been meaning to read Don Quixote and this is the tipping point. I want to make quixotic references.

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    Is his wife Yor from Spy x Family? While good choice, she’s fictional, so you’re up to the greatest cuckoldry ever witnessed in human history: waifuism.

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    Just read this to a beautiful woman I know.

    Her response: That’s not going to end near as well/funny as you think/hope it will.

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    My current company makes it real easy. All their simulated phishing addresses use the fictitious TLD of “.corn” so I just setup an email rule to filter them.

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        I delight in reporting genuine emails from my company that look like sophisticated phishing attempts, bonus points if they send a follow-up assuring us that the previous sketchy email was in fact genuine.

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        21 hours ago

        Yeah if anyone falls for this lock them out of their computer immediately.

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          Clearly he’s trying to trick you into pressing the “Report Phishing” button, which must be some sort of a trap. I’d check the attached document for further clues, especially since he’s telling me not to. Must be something interesting there

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        That’s pretty cool. Gets the point across - and the reason and results of why it matters to report instead of ignore. Kudos to your team.

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          in the Deleted Items folder. “Delete” just moves the email there. At my company anything older than a month in Deleted Items gets actually deleted. But more importantly if you just delete it, maybe nobody knows it’s’ there. If you report it the outlook team can delete it from the servers.

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      1 day ago

      I know this is a leap, but for some reason reading this made me want to buy a domain like virus.porn and make it the most wholesome, lemmy community on the planet.

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      A company I was in a few jobs back had several layers of IT department, there was the local studio department that handled our everyday stuff and a “head office” somewhere far away that set policy and handed out budget and whatnot.

      One day “head office” IT decided it was a good idea to send out some fake phishing emails to “test” us. They didn’t tell the local IT department about it, I guess they were also being “tested”. My manager received one and only recognized it as a phishing attempt after he’d clicked just one too many things for it to feel safe to ignore. So he yanked the power on his computer and contacted the local IT department, as is protocol when something potentially dangerous just happened.

      The local network went into lockdown while local IT tried to figure out if something actually dangerous had happened. It cost the studio as a whole several hours of work time, which for a studio our size translated to an obscene dollar cost. Nobody on our side of things did anything wrong, even that one extra “dangerous” click my manager did wasn’t something he could be blamed for - head office had crafted the fake phishing attempt well and his reaction to it would have prevented damage had it been real.

      Head office never tried a stunt like that again.

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          Phishing attempts that got far enough to actually show up in our internal corporate inboxes like that aren’t common, though. They’re normally blocked by the layers of firewalls and whatnot. We almost never saw email on those accounts from outside the organization itself, period.

          And once you’ve run something capable of remote execution on a machine that’s inside the local network, with the sort of privileges that his machine had (he wasn’t just a bureaucratic sort of manager, he was writing code too), you don’t want to mess around.

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      I’ve also never fallen for any of the phising emails the IT department sends to test me, my secret is almost never checking my email

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        My company sends at least one fake phishing email a week. They track stats for them on a security page and I wear it as a badge of honor that my report says 100% viewed and 0% reported.

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          24 hours ago

          My company makes you take a course of you fail one or if you ignore 4 or 5 so I have the highest reporting record of the company just because of how much I hate that course

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            I think they do that at my company too but in addition to not reporting phishing emails I have a personal rule that I don’t do any “mandatory” training unless someone in my management chain specifically asks me to. My boss probably gets annoyed by that occasionally but you’d be surprised how much of that stuff I never get asked about.

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              Last year our CISO personally reached out to me and asked me to do the course that’s overdue. I was a little nervous for a second and decided to obey.

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                Yeah that’s a good call. I don’t push back when asked directly I just pretend I didn’t see the emails. Most of the time it’s fine but the boring security stuff is usually the one they get me on.

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              Nice. My company ties the bonus payment to completing all the mandatory training. You get many reminders from HR when the bonus payment is approaching

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      23 hours ago

      My company is using phishing simulations from a company that puts their company name in the x headers or every email, so that’s also easy filter.

      As a bonus, that filter also throws all the full security training courses to junk

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        4 hours ago

        They look identical but are entirely different.

        They "a"s don’t look identical at all with a good font like Atkinson Hyperlegible Next, which also very clearly differentiates between

        • 0 and O
        • I and l

        etc…

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        I do have a tendency to check where the link leads before clicking on it, so the difference between those two is quite obvious to me: http://example.com/ vs http://xn--exmple-4nf.com/, but a lot of people probably do not do that.

        I would definitely not click on the second one.

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        I report so many things from executive level because all of the training examples use exec comms as an example.

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        When they first started doing these tests unannounced, our IT department got a horrendous failure rate and then management had to announce that if we recognize it as a phishing simulation, we should still report it, and we also shouldn’t start poking around in the supposed phishing links. 😅

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        Can still set up a header-matching rule - just need to mark the email with a label, so you can report it without even having to read it.

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        I have over 8000 unread mails in my inbox. Whoever contacts me used Slack. I don’t give a fuck about emails unless DMs me “hey can you maybe answer that customer mail I forwarded you?”

        So I would have a fabulous time with such a stupid policy.

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      Mine includes a header so their mail filter knows to ignore it.

      At this point, I’m pretty sure that every employee who has been there for more than a month has written or at least copied a filter to delete any email with that header.

      I’ve never been comfortable with that kind of mass deletion and we have, AFAIK, unlimited mailbox storage, so I just set my version to mark those emails as read.

      edit: Mail, not mark.

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      If your company contracts with phish.me then that URL is actually in the email header metadata.

      Just set up a rule for the word phish to a special folder, and then you can use the “report” button on everything in that folder to get the credit.

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        KnowBe4 includes a bunch of headers in the email, including a disclosure saying they have permission to run the simulated phishing test.

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          I heard a rumour that KnowBe4 have ties to Scientology.

          From what some Googling told me, Kevin Mitnick is a scientologist, as is most of the upper management .

          Not really relevant here, just interesting…

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            Apparently I’m both right and wrong.

            At a previous job, there was a header. I can’t remember it directly, but lets say it was like this:

            X-Acme-Security-Test: Authorized simulated phishing exercise conducted by KnowBe4 on behalf of Acme Corp for security awareness training and compliance validation
            

            Apparently KnowBe4 lets customers set their own custom headers. So this was probably set by my company. And not something everyone will see.

            But also, they set an X-PHISHTEST header. Maybe its a signed header, so they can cryptographically prove the test was in accordance with the customer’s request (this email was sent by us, but it uses YOUR private key, so clearly you were involved here, and we arent just scamming people, or otherwise allows you to validate it at the firewall/spam filter). This isn’t the header I remember, but apparentlly can also be used to detect them – the explicitly say not to do that, but here we are.

            But if you ever get a knowbe4 phishing test, check the email headers. you’ll probably find something to key off of.

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              Also there’s a “congratulations you’re a good boy” popup when you click the report phishing button in outlook, so I guess those headers is how the plugin determines whether this is a test email.

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            In the gmail web client, I dont see an option to filter off headers. thunderbird lets you set up filters for custom headers, but it’s a bit more complicated.

            TBH, i never used it to set up a custom filter, I just knew there were indicators I could use to figure out if an email was in fact a test

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              My work computer is quite locked down (can’t even install Solitaire or Minesweeper), so I’ll have to set up whatever filter in Outlook. And I think it deletes the messages once flagged as phishing, so I don’t think I have one to inspect right now.

              Anyway, some random blog seems to point back to KnowBe4’s whitelisting guide, so I think the filter would need to look for something in the header or for the specified IP addresses?

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      My place has this thing where most phishing test emails are obvious but every once in a while they’ll drop a really good one, sometimes these even pose as our managers.

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        The company I work for has lots of training to recognize phishing attempts, and then they proceed to send emails that tick most of the “avoid this” boxes.

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      I just take it one step farther and never open any email. If it’s important you will CC my manager and he will physically come by my office and tell me about the email, giving me multi-factor phishing protection. If he demands I open an email then I am absolved of responsibility.

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    My knee jerk reaction is to calmly explain why this isn’t appropriate in a corporate environment.

    I’m so broken.

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    So what about links on social media, say you beefed with the tankies, then one on an alt account sends you a link to an article, could be phishing no? What to do then?

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      Take a while to open it. If they Ping you and keep asking “Why haven’t you clicked the link yet?!” You’ll know they were Putin a trap in your DMs, and you got them by Stalin.

      That Marx them as a phisher, Lenin credence to the simple fact that you can’t trust anybody on the internet these days.

      Can’t be too careful! They come at you from so many Engels.

      😎<br> 👉👉

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    I saw one with a bunch of maga triggers. The Democrats are doing what!? 😱 they click every time.

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    I failed one of those because I have script blockers on my browser and I wanted to see what the scam was.

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    My work email is a .edu, and so most of ours are just social media phishing attempts with fake IG and Tiktok links. But why I’m the world would you use .edu for those?

    You wanna target .edu, do a quick check on our publicly accessible faculty pages and pretend to be us. I swear, we’ve got like zero protection against that, lol.

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    I’ve set my last name in caps. So any IT Phishing script using a <placeholder lastname> just sends my name in caps. And then I just set up a filter.

    They should really try and make them more believable

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        Haven’t had one in 4 years. I don’t email to outside. If I would get one I would mark it as such, but I’m not popular enough.

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      Hello Jelle WHO, You’re no gonna believe it! We’re having issues delivering your packaged extended warranty which claims that your social security bananafits will expire unless you take immediate action. Click this link to know more on how to win big with crypto.

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    I’d fail this so freaking hard omfg 😭

    Bf sends link? I click
    Complete internet stranger sends link? I click
    Thoughts? None
    Brain? Empty
    Other family members send me a link? Eeh, I get a bit suspicious, then I click 😂

    God I’m so old…at twenty already 😭