@tranquil_cassowary@infosec.exchange @ocelot221@mastodon.social @mhoye@cosocial.ca @mulchmaxxing@blahaj.zone There's a high chance of devices being sold with it preinstalled in 2027 but probably not for the initial launch.
i don’t mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google – both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.
the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i’m hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it’s unclear about bigger ones.
i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they’re both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i’ve been using thus far and it’s also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i’ve had with used phones.
i don’t mind using a google phone, i just want to do everything in my power not to help google – both directly by giving them money for a phone and indirectly by helping keep the resale value high.
the only threat model have come as a result of the us federal government and the local police. even w graphene, i’m hopelessy outclassed by the former and lineage has proven itself is good enough for the latter for less well funded police departments, but it’s unclear about bigger ones.
i would prefer graphene, but the only viable way is to do it w a used pixel and they’re both more expensive than the $150 brand new phones that i’ve been using thus far and it’s also silly to disregard the extensive history of bad luck i’ve had with used phones.
You should look closer at fed/police capabilities. Only graphene and ios consistently defeat graykey or cellebrite.
Even small departments have these capabilities or can get them on loan from bigger ones.
If that is truly something you’re worried about you should weigh your exposure to them against how much you want to not help Google (or apple).
Google or Apple won’t notice if you do or don’t buy a phone that’s their brand. You will notice if the police are able to look through your device.
People who put their principles above their own safety can be easily put in situations where they’re in danger.