The Open Gaming Collective (OGC) was an interesting announcement recently from a few bigger names, but the CachyOS team opted out of it and now we know why.
Well, fuck. I just learned about this drama, and it doesn’t seem very positive for Bazzite’s future. What is it about Discord servers that turns adults into spoiled brats? Idk whether Antheas’ version of events are 100% truthful, but he’s at least one point about some of the questionable changes recently, and I’ve seen some power tripping from the Bazzite devs wrt Ptyxis and Bazaar.
Luckily, since it’s ostree based I can switch back to eg Fedora Kinoite with a single command if things get too bad. It would be a real shame if Bazzite died though, as it’s one of the best out of the box experiences for gaming PCs/handhelds. For now, I’m sticking with it.
Oh wow I was not aware of the drama behind Bazzite.
Years ago I installed manjaro and I want to rebuild the system soon, I use that computer for gaming so Bazzite seemed the most suited to that, but when I tried it in a VM it gave me the feeling of being unpolished compared to Kinoite (the documentation of how to use fedora silverblue is excellent, and bazzite deviates quite a bit from that and adds a lot of custom tools and utilities).
I think I’ll go with Kinoite after reading this, hoping that it works relatively well on nvidia…
https://retrohandhelds.gg/gpds-bazzite-fiasco-bad-timing-worse-communication/
Antheas was removed from the bazzite project:
The Bazzite team later confirmed GPD wasn’t at fault and that Antheas had been removed by “an overwhelming majority vote” for ongoing conduct issues. Antheas wrote their own version of events, available for your reading pleasure here, if you really enjoy open-source melodrama.
So maybe take his writeup with a grain of salt.
Not saying that it’s false, or that it’s not a complex issue, but none of us were in the room so who’s to say one way or the other.
We have thought about this but we opted out, since we do not see all too much benefit from our side. Handheld stuff is not our major focus. Also, we had some concerns that this could get a “burocractic loophole”, which seemd to be more or less true so far.
Additionally, to us all this “initiative” locked like an emergency rushed thing, so that Bazzite finds new kernel maintainers and for other technical stuff after kicking the maintainer, which basically made most integration work for them
We neither want to be associated with “Playtron” too. There are more reasons, but Ill keep them out of the public
There could be theoretically a benefit in terms of specific patches for handheld devices. Antheas made there a really good job in creating and finding the proper patches, but since the person is not in Bazzite anymore and the rest seem not to have their experience.
Weve been working together with ChimeraOS and asus-linux since more then a year. Much testing and integration from inputplumber came from the CachyOS Handheld Edition too! :) I dont think for that a collective with strings attached is needed.
just for the uninatiated, playtron’s ceo/founder is kirt mcmaster, this person was pointed responsible for the downfall of cyanogen
as for my opinion, i think its fair for them to be somewhat skeptical with this just by that.
