• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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    26 days ago

    Maybe it’s just what I’ve been noticing, but I feel like Arduino was already losing its share of the hobbyist market. The plethora of small, cheap esp32 devices have already been taking Arduino’s place.

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      26 days ago

      Same with raspberrypi really.
      companies just can’t seem to know how to grow without line go up mentality.

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        26 days ago

        companies just can’t seem to know how to grow without line go up mentality.

        That’s like saying “people just can’t seem to harness the advantages of cancer without dying”

        If you never take money and get hooked by outside sources, you can just slowly grow, with no debt, beholden to no one

        If you take the money with any strings attached at all, you basically have to grow like cancer or your company will be sold for parts. It’s inevitable at that point

        Don’t take the money kids. If you have to take a business loan in the beginning - fine,

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          26 days ago

          was the comma a typo of a period, or did you have more to say here? if you have more to say i’m eager to listen

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            26 days ago

            I meant to delete the comment to keep things simple, but what I was going to say is something like

            fine, but debt is like gambling. There’s situations where it makes sense, but it’s addictive. It’s mortgaging your own future, even when it maths out it’s a risk - shit happens

            And if you over leverage and under perform, it’s over. If you can pay yourself and your employees, you’re better off never taking on debt again.

            Like Wegmans. It’s the very best grocery store, everyone who goes there agrees. They grow slowly because they only open new locations when they have the cash to do so, and so they never have to compromise on quality in any way

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        26 days ago

        They seem to forget that “line go up” isn’t the primary objective. If you make a good product and give half a shit about your customers, the line goes up as a natural consequence.

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      26 days ago

      I love the ESP32, was onboard with the ESP-8266 (might have the numbers wrong, it was the predecessor), but I thought the real difference between the ESP-32 and the Rpi was that the Rpi has an OS with a possible desktop even (and all that Libux has to offer basically), as the ESP is more of a uProcessor you program in C/C++?

      Edit: Plesse disregard, I mixed up the posts and posted one levet too high too…

      • IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works
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        26 days ago

        To answer your question anyway, raspberry Pi made the rp2040 chip, which is a microcontroller similar to the esp, instead of a full fat computer SOC

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      26 days ago

      But how many of those esp32s are programmed using the Arduino IDE and Arduino libraries?