Pup Biru

i took the phrase

You don’t need to understand why they struggle, just accept that they do.

to mean that you shouldn’t assume someone is lying. they just might have different circumstance or needs. that doesn’t invalidate their experience, just that you’re solving different problems (which may not have been well communicated, and also may not even be technical problems).

if you’re trying to solve their problems, then sure that’s a discussing… but 99% of tech conversations on the internet like this are people berating others for “not understanding” the “simple” way it’s done because it works fine for them

slight disagree: proud version is actually when you become so disillusioned with your old code that you throw it all out and start again

what’s not how a model works? i didn’t say anything about how a specific thing works… i simply said that emergent behaviours are real things, and separately that consciousness doesn’t look like a human brain to be consciousness

given we can’t even reliably define it, let alone test for it, if true AGI ever comes along i’m sure there will be plenty of debate about if it “counts”

who knows: consciousness could just be bootstrapping a particular set of self-sustaining loops, which could happen in something that looks like the underlying technology that LLMs are built on

but as i said, i tend to think LLMs are not the path towards that (IMO mostly because language is a very leaky abstraction)

emergent behaviour does exist and just because something is not structured exactly like our own brains doesn’t mean it’s not conscious/etc, but yes i would tend to agree

well see when you’re too lazy to design a schema and just want to throw broken data into a black hole where you may or may not be able to retrieve it and deal with the repercussions in production - or better yet let the ops team handle it at 3am - then that’s when you’d choose mongodb