Manjaro 2.0 Synopsis This document covers the organizational, technical, management, and other changes we (the Manjaro Team, et al) like to see applied to the Manjaro Project. The goal of this document is to serve as a point of discussion, and ultimately, once a consensus on its contents and written goals has been reached, as a guide for the organizational restructuring of the Manjaro Project. Motivation The Manjaro Project has been declining over the past decade. It managed to sustain a sizabl...
I’ve been using Manjaro for years without issue.
It is the best distro for my needs.
What do you see as its advantage(s) over other Arch derivatives?
literally impossible, even if it was run by competent people (it isn’t) its design fundamentally caters to no-one
want easy arch? Cachyos, endeavoros
are those too hard? Fedora, aurora, bazzite
The current design of slowing down arch breaks more things than it solves and just results in a significantly harder to fix setup.
the only people who like manjaro haven’t tried anything else and haven’t really thought about their distros philosophies at all, or just got really unlucky with other distros. There’s literally no reason to use this distro that isn’t just that you’re already used to it. That’s not even factoring in that the distro is a net negative for the community (see: ddosing the aur)
Neither CachyOS nor EndeavourOS get out of the way same as Manjaro. CachyOS doesn’t even ship with app store by default, which is an immediate yuck for someone who needs a “just conveniently works out of the box” distro.
Manjaro is the only Arch derivative that allows you to never even think you have Arch under the hood. It has all sorts of QoL improvements and graphical settings for everything, it has a smooth and beautiful integration of all package sources (something Arch is notoriously bad with), and if you don’t need AUR, package delay prevents breaking changes, helping you not to think about managing your system.
Manjaro is not for everyone, and it will definitely not satisfy a typical Arch demographic, as it’s made with different people in mind. Hence such an opinionated take on your side. Recent management issues don’t help, either, but that’s exactly what they’re trying to take action against.
In any case, it was Manjaro that served as my gateway to Linux, and it couldn’t have been smoother. No other distro I played around made me switch.
My recommendation for someone that needs an appstore with a gui is fedora, manjaro is terrible for this, because they have an appstore that regularly breaks and requires cli intervention anyway, if having a gui for package management is important to you manjaro is a terrible choice, as is arch in general.
read some of the comments here, this is not uncommon, and it’s a fundamental issue with the design of arch package management that has been completely resolved elsewhere.
No, I do not agree at all that that is a valid usecase for manjaro. Anybody who needs a distro that works out of the box and is convenient shouldn’t even be considering anything arch based.
Look, I’ve used more different OSes than I can remember. I used everything from CP/M to Solaris. I’ve used Microsoft Xenix, HP-UX, OS/2, Haiku, BSDs, you name it. I’ve used Slackware, Knoppix, Tom’s RootBoot, Puppy Linux, Debian, RedHat Linux (not RHEL, the original), Corel Linux, Mandrake, Caldera.
I love weird OSes and their history. I think I have enough knowledge to jump ship when a distro is giving me a hard time. I use Debian on all servers, Xubuntu or Kubuntu (de-SNAPed, of course) on desktops. But my personal laptop is running Manjaro for years now because it works, stays fresh, and gets out of my way.
That’s normal most distros do that, what does manjaro do better than others? You have not made any sort of case for why manjaro is better.
you fall under “haven’t thought about distros philosophies”
you did not actually compare anything, what you discovered is that manjaro works… but so does everything else so that’s not a valid comparison, usless you can point to distros that don’t work and why
You framed is as a non ideal philosophy. But acknowledging the things slowing down breaks and taking the time to make a calculated step so things don’t break anyway when updating can be appealing. I see it as a slightly faster stable. Inefficient maybe, but that’s just a difference in values. In practice it sounds like this hasn’t worked for some, guess I’ve been lucky. There maybe be other distros that do this better now, I couldn’t tell you, but from a, comparing philosophical differences point of view, Manjaro seems like an option.
If you want slightly faster stable then you probably want something like https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Slowroll
which does exactly that but has a competent team backing it.
or even fedora, really.
I’m glad I’ve learned to ignore people like you.
Tell me why I’m wrong.
But you kinda didn’t.