To be completely fair, Starcraft: Ghost was originally teased in 2002. Obviously a different game, but they did sow the seeds for a starcraft IP shooter long before Destiny.
Lol okay. There is nothing in this current project from 20+ years ago of a game that got canceled. I doubt they even have any preliminary builds around anymore to pull from. This is something being built from the ground up.
Obviously. Your statement was that StarCraft had never had any original ideas in the IP; I was just pointing out that the idea of a StarCraft IP shooter pre-dates Destiny (and FarCry). I’m not sure why we’re still discussing this.
Well I assumed it had some relevance, but it really doesnt. It doesnt really prove that StarCraft has original ideas just because they had a canceled game that was before Destiny. Looking at the time period that one was probably because Halo did so well. So it was probably going to be like Halo.
When they said open world shooter, I was thinking more Far Cry than Destiny, but of course this being Blizzard they will pick the option that tries to monetize it the most.
I only thought Destiny because StarCraft is just a hodgepodge of SciFi shit from other IPs. So I thought of the biggest name “open world” SciFi shooter that recently existed and I would say Destiny is it unfortunately.
The dude who was on stage during the announcement, Dan Hay, was apparently a producer on all the FarCry games since 3, so that tracks, but as you said, how can they extract a billion dollars from that.
StarCraft was supposed to be a Warhammer 40k game if memory serves me. But GW said nah, and so blizzard made StarCraft. Old story, could be bullshit, but the similarities are sort of obvious.
Far cry maybe would’ve been a better example than just cause, but that’s the issue with classifying it as “open world shooter”. It could be Far Cry, it could be Destiny, it could be anything between. It could even be Just Cause because we don’t even know if it’s first or third person.
It feels pretty reductive to say something doesn’t have original ideas. Pretty much every story has been told in one way or another at this point in history, especially if we get really reductive about it. It doesn’t mean things can’t be interesting or unique.
10k? Well that’s pretty original, because I’ve never heard of it.
But on a more serious note, it’s just too reductive to say “there is nothing original in StarCraft because it feels like Warhammer 40k.” All media is inspired by media that came before it. Lion King is similar to Hamlet, does that mean there’s nothing original in it?
Did I miss all the musical numbers in StarCraft? The thing about “inspired by” is you actually have to add new things. StarCraft just has Not Imperium of Man, Not Tyranids, Not Old Ones, and Not Eldar. This is a hill I am more than willing to die on.
I dont think turning StarCraft into Destiny is a good idea. But then again StarCraft has never had any original ideas in the IP.
To be completely fair, Starcraft: Ghost was originally teased in 2002. Obviously a different game, but they did sow the seeds for a starcraft IP shooter long before Destiny.
To be totally completely fair that game was canceled and is over 20 years old. Whatever seeds it planted are scarce by now at best.
Doesn’t matter, you said original ideas, not completed games.
Lol okay. There is nothing in this current project from 20+ years ago of a game that got canceled. I doubt they even have any preliminary builds around anymore to pull from. This is something being built from the ground up.
Obviously. Your statement was that StarCraft had never had any original ideas in the IP; I was just pointing out that the idea of a StarCraft IP shooter pre-dates Destiny (and FarCry). I’m not sure why we’re still discussing this.
Well I assumed it had some relevance, but it really doesnt. It doesnt really prove that StarCraft has original ideas just because they had a canceled game that was before Destiny. Looking at the time period that one was probably because Halo did so well. So it was probably going to be like Halo.
When they said open world shooter, I was thinking more Far Cry than Destiny, but of course this being Blizzard they will pick the option that tries to monetize it the most.
I only thought Destiny because StarCraft is just a hodgepodge of SciFi shit from other IPs. So I thought of the biggest name “open world” SciFi shooter that recently existed and I would say Destiny is it unfortunately.
Zerglings dropping all kinds of leveled loot is just going to ruin the tone that trailer was going for.
They won’t do that. But they’ll have the season passes, in-game micro transactions for skins, probably episodic bullshit too. Thats my guess.
The dude who was on stage during the announcement, Dan Hay, was apparently a producer on all the FarCry games since 3, so that tracks, but as you said, how can they extract a billion dollars from that.
StarCraft was supposed to be a Warhammer 40k game if memory serves me. But GW said nah, and so blizzard made StarCraft. Old story, could be bullshit, but the similarities are sort of obvious.
And Warcraft was meant to be Warhammer Fantasy!
Absolutely, watch the trailer for this new game and tell me it couldn’t be a Space Marine game
Is it live service? I’ve only heard open world. More Just Cause than Destiny.
Is it 3rd person? I assumed 1st.
I’m comparing basic single player open world to live service. Not POV
Destiny 2 was live service, Destiny was arguably not entirely when it released but was getting ready to go there by the end.
Far cry maybe would’ve been a better example than just cause, but that’s the issue with classifying it as “open world shooter”. It could be Far Cry, it could be Destiny, it could be anything between. It could even be Just Cause because we don’t even know if it’s first or third person.
The whole announcement is a nothing burger.
It feels pretty reductive to say something doesn’t have original ideas. Pretty much every story has been told in one way or another at this point in history, especially if we get really reductive about it. It doesn’t mean things can’t be interesting or unique.
Its Warhammer 10k and it feels like it.
10k? Well that’s pretty original, because I’ve never heard of it.
But on a more serious note, it’s just too reductive to say “there is nothing original in StarCraft because it feels like Warhammer 40k.” All media is inspired by media that came before it. Lion King is similar to Hamlet, does that mean there’s nothing original in it?
Did I miss all the musical numbers in StarCraft? The thing about “inspired by” is you actually have to add new things. StarCraft just has Not Imperium of Man, Not Tyranids, Not Old Ones, and Not Eldar. This is a hill I am more than willing to die on.
Mm, so the only thing that can make something original is the playable factions. Noted. Indeed a weird hill to die on.
Way to be intentionally obtuse just to join the dogpile.